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剛剛從網路上買了個全新的 USD$99 的 FMA 簡易版的飛行穩定系統,昨天晚上裝到了三點多,結果今天滿懷希望的拿去試飛,按下了開啟系統的小紅鈕,只見主旋翼控制左右和前後傾的伺服器不斷的慢慢的來回擺動,調整敏感度控制也不見任何影響,這樣的來回擺動,想要飛是不可能了。但拔下感應器的接線後就可以正常的控制飛行。 smiles-dem03.gif

不知有使用過的前輩,能否指點一下,看是安裝有誤還是設定未完成。
感激不盡!

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據說是這樣的,但一直無法親身體驗 ........ smiles-dem03.gif

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你好
你先要將機身躺下來
使紅外線偵測器垂直
這時按下紅色那棵按紐約3秒
讓它偵測週遭得溫度(所以在室內不能使用-因為溫度變化不大)
這時十字盤會依據週遭的溫度來決定動幾下
通常建議4下以上在使用
偵測完後
十字盤就會開始前後左右搖擺
這時將機身至於水平面上
前後左右都要水平
之後將搖控器右邊的搖桿往右邊扳
就ok啦 smiles-dem18.gif smiles-dem18.gif

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發表於 2006-4-9 18:16 |只看該作者
QUOTE (mo230 @ Apr 9 2006, 05:48 PM)
據說是這樣的,但一直無法親身體驗 ........ smiles-dem03.gif

買了就可以體會了 smiles-dem37.gif
我也有買FS8 co-pilot ,最近才剛學會怎麼設定....
還蠻神奇的,故意把機子前傾、後傾,左傾,右傾,放開遙控器後,
機子就自動恢復停懸狀態,不過也不是不會摔機,太快的速度還是會摔~
我第一次用就摔斷了碳纖尾管+碳纖尾旋翼~~~ smiles-dem03.gif
●Trex450 SE /430XL-3700KV/ 65MG*3 / GY401 / S9650 / 動力 11.1V 2000mah 20C *4顆 / 11.1V 2100mah 20C 1顆
●Trex600 /600XL-1650KV/ 645MG*3 / GY401 / S9254 / 動力 22.2V 4400mah 18C * 共3顆
●Tiger 3練習機油改電,重量2650g,推力2KG,A123鋰鐵 5S1P
●發射機:Fataba FF9 Super 72Mhz可變頻模組
●實機+模擬器飛行時數:約 45~55 小時 (四面停懸勉強OK...飛行新手)
●部落格記錄飛行點滴: [url=http://blog.xuite.net/jacky14/blog]http://blog.xuite.net/jacky14/blog[/url]

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發表於 2006-4-9 19:31 |只看該作者
smiles-000149.gif 太好了, 謝謝前輩們~

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發表於 2006-4-10 17:16 |只看該作者
這個東西還不錯用,可以省一些摔機的花費,飛久了可以慢慢降低一些感度
有人掛這個東西倒飛過嗎?不知道是否能自動翻回來

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發表於 2006-4-11 20:48 |只看該作者
QUOTE (mo230 @ Apr 9 2006, 05:36 PM)
剛剛從網路上買了個全新的 USD$99 的 FMA 簡易版的飛行穩定系統,昨天晚上裝到了三點多,結果今天滿懷希望的拿去試飛,按下了開啟系統的小紅鈕,只見主旋翼控制左右和前後傾的伺服器不斷的慢慢的來回簞吽A調整敏感度控制也不見任何影響,這樣的來回簞吽A想要飛是不可能了。但拔下感應器的接線後就可以正常的控制飛行。 smiles-dem03.gif

不知有使用過的前輩,能否指點一下,看是安裝有誤還是設定未完成。
感激不盡!

Skype: ady_chuang
MSN: [email protected]
手機: 0937-082-641

這個東東折合台幣要多少錢阿??
在台灣買不到嗎??

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發表於 2006-4-13 23:29 |只看該作者
嗚~ 再求救一下。
前兩天弄好摔爛的機子後要開始飛了,才發現把機子從橫躺設定好 Co-Pilot ,轉正後,就看到十字盤有明顯的歪斜,而且確定是因為 Co-Pilot 的影響,因為把機子抓起來前後左右傾斜,會看到十字盤自己做相對位置的調整~實在是蠻酷的!但好像是 Co-Pilot 的初始點沒設好,可以再請前輩說明如何調整嗎?
感激不盡~ smiles-dem03.gif

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發表於 2006-4-14 15:07 |只看該作者
飛起來有問題嗎?手抓著,故意前傾、左傾,十字盤有自動維持水平嗎?
橫著躺時,數伺服器快速來回次數大概幾下 ??
出太陽時,我的 FS8 都約 7~10 下,可以維持不錯的穩定.....
希望您能早點飛行,不過勤練模擬器也是不可少的... smiles-dem18.gif
●Trex450 SE /430XL-3700KV/ 65MG*3 / GY401 / S9650 / 動力 11.1V 2000mah 20C *4顆 / 11.1V 2100mah 20C 1顆
●Trex600 /600XL-1650KV/ 645MG*3 / GY401 / S9254 / 動力 22.2V 4400mah 18C * 共3顆
●Tiger 3練習機油改電,重量2650g,推力2KG,A123鋰鐵 5S1P
●發射機:Fataba FF9 Super 72Mhz可變頻模組
●實機+模擬器飛行時數:約 45~55 小時 (四面停懸勉強OK...飛行新手)
●部落格記錄飛行點滴: [url=http://blog.xuite.net/jacky14/blog]http://blog.xuite.net/jacky14/blog[/url]

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發表於 2006-4-14 19:09 |只看該作者
飛起來有問題嗎?手抓著,故意前傾、左傾,十字盤有自動維持水平嗎?
橫著躺時,數伺服器快速來回次數大概幾下 ??
出太陽時,我的 FS8 都約 7~10 下,可以維持不錯的穩定.....
希望您能早點飛行,不過勤練模擬器也是不可少的...

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其實根本不敢飛, 光是放在地上就看到十字盤往右歪的嚇人 smiles-000140.gif ,不知是否是陰天的關係~ ...... 橫躺時,一按下開關會馬上動一下,按住約三秒後放掉也會很快的動一下,然後才慢慢一直不停的轉動,接著將油門的搖桿往右推到底~據說這樣就 OK 了,但十字盤就歪的嚇人了 ......... PS:我的是簡易版的,不是 FS8

再麻煩前輩指點,謝謝! smiles-000149.gif

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發表於 2006-4-14 20:08 |只看該作者
直昇機躺在地上時,
co-pilot 有兩個紅外線窗要能看的到天空.....兩個對著地上.....
然後按住紅色測試鈕2~3秒左右,伺服器就會快速移動,要記下總共幾次....
像今天陰天的傍晚我測還有 3 下~~

> 才慢慢一直不停的轉動,   接著將油門的搖桿往右推到底
                       
          數完次數後,然後機子要放平,才可以推副翼的右
●Trex450 SE /430XL-3700KV/ 65MG*3 / GY401 / S9650 / 動力 11.1V 2000mah 20C *4顆 / 11.1V 2100mah 20C 1顆
●Trex600 /600XL-1650KV/ 645MG*3 / GY401 / S9254 / 動力 22.2V 4400mah 18C * 共3顆
●Tiger 3練習機油改電,重量2650g,推力2KG,A123鋰鐵 5S1P
●發射機:Fataba FF9 Super 72Mhz可變頻模組
●實機+模擬器飛行時數:約 45~55 小時 (四面停懸勉強OK...飛行新手)
●部落格記錄飛行點滴: [url=http://blog.xuite.net/jacky14/blog]http://blog.xuite.net/jacky14/blog[/url]

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發表於 2006-4-15 21:12 |只看該作者
伺服器抖完,將機子置於水平位置後,
儘量離機子遠一點再打副翼,以完成設定,(避免自已的體溫影響感應器)
這樣的十字盤照理來說是水平的

請先確定一下您不是在機子的旁邊打副翼來完成設定
再不然,把感度調小一點後,再重頭試試 smiles-dem37.gif

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發表於 2006-7-15 03:28 |只看該作者
QUOTE (ccyao @ Apr 15 2006, 09:09 PM)
伺服器抖完,將機子置於水平位置後,
儘量離機子遠一點再打副翼,以完成設定,(避免自已的體溫影響感應器)
這樣的十字盤照理來說是水平的

請先確定一下您不是在機子的旁邊打副翼來完成設定
再不然,把感度調小一點後,再重頭試試 smiles-dem37.gif

大大:

請問 co-pilot, RMT之線接入第五動位置有什麼用? smiles-icon_confus.gif

是否開關之用?

我是用2610,接收用R770S,

可否用AUX2空位,但搖控器怎樣將AUX2轉為開關?

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發表於 2006-7-15 09:09 |只看該作者
在美國RunRyder網站 warlock1174發表之 co-pilot 設置, 希望幫到你....

I originally posted this on another site, but since this is strictly a heli site, it probably fits in better here.

I have noticed a lot of discussion on the co-pilot. It seems that some people may be confusing some of the setup steps of it. I have posted this information in some other places, but I am re-capping it all here for everyone's convenience. I can point my heli nose down, and put it in a violent roll, and when I let go of the sticks, it levels beautifully. I can also fly it in some heavy wind, and let go of the sticks, and it will sit there as pretty as you please. (It might rise or fall with the lift from the wind, or it may drift slightly, but it will stay level.) Please follow the instructions I've provided here, and you'll get it right, and it will work great.



NOTE: Steps 1, 2, 3 and 4 should only have to be done when you first install the CP. After you get it setup correctly, then these four steps are to be ignored at the field. It does not matter if you disconnect the battery or turn the RX off. All you are doing in these four steps is setting up the mixing functions in the control box. So remember, once you complete these steps successfully, you DO NOT HAVE TO DO THEM AGAIN. This only applies to steps 1, 2, 3 and 4!!!


1. INSTALLATION>Make sure you have the copilot installed correctly. The device should sit on your tailboom, with the cable forward. The co-pilot should be diagonal to the boom.


2. INITIAL SETUP> Turn on your tx. Hold down your calibrate button, and turn on the receiver. The Co-Pilot will twitch the swashplate three times to tell you that it is in "SETUP MODE" Your CP (co-pilot) is now in "SETUP MODE/PITCH". The active sensors will be "P", or pitch. Only these two sensors are now active! (Your engine should NOT be running yet.)

3. PITCH SETUP>Check the pitch compensation. This means, move your hand in front of the two sensor windows that are marked "p". These windows should sit opposite each other. The swashplate should move OPPOSITE of the sensor your hand is on front of. Keep in mind that only the two sensors marked "p" are active right now. If the swashplate does not move opposite your hand, then the switches on the control box need to be adjusted. Depending on your individual setup, you may need to switch more than one of these switches. Keep playing until you get the desired swashplate movement. (Away from, or opposite your hand.) If your swashplate moves correctly, then go to the next step. If not, start over again.

4. ROLL SETUP>Now, press the red calibrate button once again. The CP is now in "SETUP MODE/ ROLL" Verify that the same procedure you used for the "p" sensors now works for the unmarked sensors. The swashplate should move away from the sensor you hand is in front of. Now, Check the trim pot on the co-pilot, and ensure that it is turned COMPLETELY counter-clockwise. This will tell the co-pilot that it should be in auto trim OFF. You can read more on this in the book, but for now, just do it. (What this does is tell the co-pilot that YOUR trim inputs should over-ride the co-pilots calibrated trim settings. Basically, when you calibrate the co-pilot and lift off, the helicopter may be slightly out of trim when you center the sticks. All you have to do is re-trim them while you are not touching the cyclic.) When you have completed the above steps, and everything is working, turn off your tx and receiver, and move on to the next step.

5. FIELD CALIBRATION>You are now ready to calibrate your CP at the field. Try to avoid pavement, highly irregular terrain, and snow or water. You should be in a relatively level field (not perfect though...) with as little obstructions as possible. Buildings and trees and other materials give off varying degrees of infrared heat. Try to avoid what the instruction manual tells you to avoid!

6. Turn on your TX and RX. Do not start the engine yet.

7. Lay your helicopter on its' side. Fold your blades up to get this correct. Now, press and hold the red calibrate button. Your swashplate will twitch when you first press this button, then it will cycle the swashplate back and forth quickly. Count these cycles. 1 and 10 should be avoided. If you get a 1 or 10, then repeat this step until you get a reading from 2 to 9.

8. THIS IS IMPORTANT! After you have counted the cycles and made sure you were within the operating limits, the swashplate will slowly cycle back and forth. Real slow kind of.... Don't count these... It's just a message from the CP telling you that it is waiting for the next command. YOU MUST MAKE ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN THAT THE CO-PILOT SITS LEVEL AT THIS POINT!!!! BEFORE YOU MOVE YOUR CYCLIC STICK! FAILURE TO DO SO WILL RESULT IN A MIS-PROGRAMMED CP..... Once the CP is level (I use a small circular bubble level I found at big-lots... ) then move the cyclic stick in any direction. The swashplate should center itself.

9. FINAL CHECK>You need to verify all is good before you crank the engine. Tilt the helicopter nose down. The CP should tilt the swashplate away from the ground. Then do the same test to the other axis of the swashplate. Left should move right, right should move left, and so on.... Whichever direction you hold the heli, the swashplate should move OPPOSITE of that position. IF not, something is wrong. Insert another quarter and try again!!!

10. SENSITIVITY>Now, you will need to set up how sensitive it is. If you have set up a toggle switch, or a trim dial, you will need to be certain that it functions correctly. I just simply saved the extra channel for something else, and set the trim to about 1/3rd from completely off. (Turn the pot all the way counterclockwise, then open it 1/3rd turn.) This setting should give you sufficient leveling power, but if not, you can turn it up a little at a time to find your comfort zone.



Just so you know, it CAN be used on cloudy days, & the reason you can use it in cloudy skies is this:
The calibration that you do at the field tells the Co-pilot 2 things: The infrared heat signature of the earth in that general area, and the infrared heat signature of the sky. The clouds will make little to no difference, because of the heat signature of the sky... To explain further (and in layman's terms), the Co-Pilot is reading the ambient infrared temperature (I am using the word temperature loosely here.) of the AIR and the GROUND. Clouds generally do not affect the temperature of the whole sky. When the co-pilot reads the two measurements for each area, it averages them. Then, when in use, it simply monitors the tempurature differences. So, if you tilt the helicopter to the right, the right hand sensors will point at the ground and the left hand sensors will point at the sky. The co-pilot knows that these two temperatures are now different/offset, so it levels the heli until that initial setup information is restored. The sky above us on any given day, retains almost a perfectly steady infrared heat signature, thus clouds have little, or no effect.

Hope that made sense!!!



There you have it. I follow steps 5 through 10 every time I fly with the CP. Once you have it configured properly, you'll enjoy it. I sure do. I hope this helps!
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During INITIAL SETUP, your transmitter and receiver MUST both be on.

During INITIAL SETUP, it doesn't matter where the trim pot is turned to, but you should go ahead and turn it all the way counter-clockwise since you will have to do that at the field for calibration anyway.

During FIELD CALIBRATION, it's important that you are NOT on concrete. Or snow, or water. (Unless of course the ENTIRE area you are flying over is universally snow, water or concrete.) Like, say, Alaska, or over a lake. Who flies around these areas anyway? During FIELD CALIBRATION, after you press the red button, try to stand as far from the co-pilot as possible.
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發表於 2006-7-15 11:49 |只看該作者
QUOTE (mo230 @ Apr 9 2006, 05:36 PM)
剛剛從網路上買了個全新的 USD$99 的 FMA 簡易版的飛行穩定系統,昨天晚上裝到了三點多,結果今天滿懷希望的拿去試飛,按下了開啟系統的小紅鈕,只見主旋翼控制左右和前後傾的伺服器不斷的慢慢的來回簞吽A調整敏感度控制也不見任何影響,這樣的來回簞吽A想要飛是不可能了。但拔下感應器的接線後就可以正常的控制飛行。 smiles-dem03.gif

不知有使用過的前輩,能否指點一下,看是安裝有誤還是設定未完成。
感激不盡!

Skype: ady_chuang
MSN: [email protected]
手機: 0937-082-641

ㄏㄏ...小弟之前也有買...裝上後發現練停旋似乎用不太到它
畢竟停旋飛ㄉ低...真正凸槌也沒太充裕ㄉ時間拉回來
所幸就把開關關掉..自己練...乖乖ㄉ搭配模擬器練也是0摔機

不過最近又把開關打開測試卻發現它好像壞ㄌ...大太陽下也只會抖動一次(理論上正常是要3次以上)
就只好把它拆ㄌ....丟在盒子裡..也不知該如何處置它 smiles-dem21.gif
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