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你的CC ICE HV 80/160怎麼設定?

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發表於 2010-5-19 20:38 |只看該作者 |倒序瀏覽
剛才把定速設下去了,準備明天早上試飛,不知道有沒有什麼設定值不適合?

#######################################################
# Castle Link Data File
# Created: Wednesday, May 19, 2010
# Do Not Edit This File By Hand
#######################################################
Hex55: 85
Brake Strength: 0
Brake Delay: .6 sec (Delayed) (*)
Brake Ramp: Immediate (*)
Cutoff Type: Soft Cutoff
Motor Start Power: 39
Direction: Forward (*)
PWM Rate: Outrunner Mode (*)
Current Limiting: Insensitive (140A)
Cutoff Voltage: Auto Li-Po (*)
Motor Timing: 5
Vehicle Type: Helicopter
Throttle Type: Governor Mode
Throttle Response: 2
Governor Gain: 25
Initial Spool-Up Rate: 5
Head Speed Change Rate: 5
Auto Rotate Enabled: False
Governor Mode Type: Fixed
Vehicle Setup - Battery Type: LiPo
Vehicle Setup - Number of Cells: 12
Vehicle Setup - Battery Voltage: 44.4000
Vehicle Setup - Gear Ratio: 9.583
Vehicle Setup - Motor Kv: 510
Vehicle Setup - Motor Number of Poles: 10
Desired Head Speed 1: 1500
Desired Head Speed 2: 1954
Desired Head Speed 3: 2058
Data Log Enabled: 255
Sample Frequency: 5 Sample / Sec (*)
Power-On Beep: Enabled (*)
Auto-Lipo Volts/Cell: 3.0 Volts/Cell (*)
Futaba T10CHP mode 3
T-REX 500E | 飛行次數: 11147
T-REX 700E | 飛行次數: 2064
T-REX 700N | 飛行次數: 166

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發表於 2010-5-19 21:48 |只看該作者
哇~~沒想到他裡面的設定這麼多樣、這麼精細 ,
想必一定可以滿足每位飛友不同的喜好與效能。
亞拓第一,最愛亞拓。

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發表於 2010-5-20 00:16 |只看該作者
這是我的設定. 不過還在摸索當中, 所以有些參數可能需修改.  但這樣已經飛了幾趟, 沒什麼問題.
#######################################################
# Castle Link Data File
# Created: Wednesday, May 19, 2010
# Do Not Edit This File By Hand
#######################################################
Hex55: 85
Brake Strength: 0
Brake Delay: .6 sec (Delayed) (*)
Brake Ramp: Immediate (*)
Cutoff Type: Hard Cutoff (*)
Motor Start Power: 59
Direction: Forward (*)
PWM Rate: Outrunner Mode (*)
Current Limiting: Insensitive (140A)
Cutoff Voltage: Auto Li-Po (*)
Motor Timing: 5
Vehicle Type: Helicopter
Throttle Type: Governor Mode
Throttle Response: 5
Governor Gain: 15
Initial Spool-Up Rate: 5
Head Speed Change Rate: 5
Auto Rotate Enabled: False
Governor Mode Type: Simple
Data Log Enabled: 255
Sample Frequency: 5 Sample / Sec (*)
Power-On Beep: Enabled (*)
Auto-Lipo Volts/Cell: 3.0 Volts/Cell (*)

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發表於 2010-5-20 00:51 |只看該作者
Bert Kammerer 的設定

I have received numerous emails and PMs asking to share my Castle ICE 80 HV setup as well as my data and graphs. I am currently running the ESC in fixed throttle mode. However, it can also be configured to run in governor mode. I prefer fixed throttle because I get crazy head speed in the beginning, which suits my flying style well. The only drawback of running fixed throttle mode is that the head speed decay is obviously way more pronounced towards the end of the flight.

ESC Settings:
  • Vehicle Type: Helicopter
  • Throttle Type: Fixed Endpoints
  • Cutoff Voltage: Auto Li-Po
  • Current Limiting: Insensitive
  • Cutoff Type: Soft Cutoff
  • Auto-Lipo Volts/Cell: 3.0 Volts/Cell
  • Motor Timing: Custom 8
  • PWM Rate: Outrunner Mode

If you prefer to run governor mode, then simply change the throttle type to 「Helicopter Governor Mode」 and use these settings:

  • Settings for Governor Mode: Set RPM
  • Initial Spool-Up Rate: Medium
  • Head Speed Change Rate: Medium
  • Governor Gain: Medium (you will need to adjust this)
  • Battery Pack Voltage: 3.70 (adjust settings for 12s)
  • Motor and Gearing: (adjust settings for 115T main and 12T pinion, 510KV motor, 10 poles)
  • Desired Head Speeds: 1800, 1950, 2050 (you』ll get an error on 2050, don』t worry! It works fine at 96.4%)

Keep in mind, your throttle curves on your transmitter need to be set at 30% for normal mode, 70% for idle/stunt 1 and 100% for idle/stunt 2 in order for the governor mode to work correctly.
As for the governor gain, start at 「Medium」 as indicated above, hover your heli and if your tail is smooth go fly, if the tail shows a bit of a glitch or inconsistent wag, reduce the gain. You can keep increasing your governor gain until the tail starts to act up, then back it down from there. The goal is to have the highest gain you can get without causing tail problems.

Gear Ratio!
Do not attempt to run a larger pinion on this motor, increasing the pinion size will decrease the life of the motor and possibly even burn it! If you want a higher head speed and more head room for governor mode, I recommend going with a different motor and gear ratio. KDE I believe is making an upgrade kit for the 700E that allows to move the motor back and forward to accommodate different motors and gear ratios.

80 Amp Controller Enough?
I get this question a lot. Yes! It is more than enough for this setup, the highest current I can push through this controller with this setup is about 120 amps and that is just a peak lasting less than 1 second. The average current is well below the 80 amp rating. The highest internal temperature of the controller is 175 degrees with an average temperature of 150. This controller can handle up to 212 degrees. If you are not comfortable with these numbers, then you should get the Castle ICE HV 125, your call! I prefer the 80 because it is light and small.

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發表於 2010-5-20 09:06 |只看該作者
早上試了,結果失敗
ESC通電後連續beep beep beep beep beep
不是平常的啟動聲音
這個聲音表示要設定油門行程嗎?
怎麼設定?
Futaba T10CHP mode 3
T-REX 500E | 飛行次數: 11147
T-REX 700E | 飛行次數: 2064
T-REX 700N | 飛行次數: 166

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發表於 2010-5-20 12:59 |只看該作者
原帖由 forth 於 2010-5-20 09:06 發表
早上試了,結果失敗
ESC通電後連續beep beep beep beep beep
不是平常的啟動聲音
這個聲音表示要設定油門行程嗎?
怎麼設定?



如果你是用 FUTABA 的遙控器

在說明書第二頁有寫

NOTE TO USERS WITH A FUTABA TRANSMITT ER: You must
reverse the throttle channel signal on your transmitter.
Please refer to your Futaba instructions

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發表於 2010-5-20 13:20 |只看該作者
有設反向了,而且有用Fixed Throttle模式試飛過
Futaba T10CHP mode 3
T-REX 500E | 飛行次數: 11147
T-REX 700E | 飛行次數: 2064
T-REX 700N | 飛行次數: 166

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發表於 2010-5-21 02:00 |只看該作者
假如有設Cutoff Voltage: Auto Li-Po (*), 通電後會beep 12次, 代表12S 鋰聚. 完了後應該就正常啟動.

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發表於 2010-5-21 03:12 |只看該作者
原帖由 forth 於 2010-5-20 13:20 發表
有設反向了,而且有用Fixed Throttle模式試飛過


推測可能低油門在臨界點,建議重校一次油門:

1.先將Normal設為0~100%
2.進入EndPoint-Throttle,先將範圍往中間靠(高點拉低些,低點拉高些)
3.將油門推到最高,ESC通電.會聽到你說的那個嗶嗶音.
4.將EndPoint高油門陸續增加,一直到聽到ESC發出連續確認音,此時將EndPoint拉回1格.
5.將油門拉到最低,陸續減少低油門EndPoint,聽到確認音再增加一格.
如果正確的話,此時推油門就開始緩啟動了.

如果沒用過定速,建議照我的設(如圖).

Normal油門設成一直線,例如 50-50-50-50-50,用HOLD(或引擎熄火)當啟動開關.就是接電前將HOLD打開,接完電把HOLD關掉就開始緩啟動.如果你的Normal不是一直線,那就啟動時推一次油門就不要動了,等待定速補償偵測完成轉速穩定後再接著操作,否則ESC正在偵測定速補償,你油門動來動去,轉速可能每次啟動都不一樣,爛一點的ESC早晚會碰一聲輸出大電流燒ESC.

如果要做熄火降落,就把autorotation打勾,這是CC特色,如果IDLE->HOLD(ON)->HOLD(OFF)會進入救機啟動,如果IDLE->NORMAL->HOLD(ON)->HOLD(OFF)則為緩啟動.

rctw好像掛了,先來這邊混一下~

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發表於 2010-5-21 09:21 |只看該作者
謝謝,原來是油門要校正,這點說明書沒提到,在helifreak倒是有看到
我的定速設定如圖,normal/idle1/idle2油門曲線是水平40/80/100%

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Futaba T10CHP mode 3
T-REX 500E | 飛行次數: 11147
T-REX 700E | 飛行次數: 2064
T-REX 700N | 飛行次數: 166

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發表於 2010-5-21 14:47 |只看該作者
原帖由 forth 於 2010-5-21 09:21 發表
謝謝,原來是油門要校正,這點說明書沒提到,在helifreak倒是有看到
我的定速設定如圖,normal/idle1/idle2油門曲線是水平40/80/100%

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對喔~忘了大大去年10月之前就開始改700E在玩了.只是我比較誇張,一口氣把5種廠牌的ESC買回來試.選出一個最好的為止.

當初cc是這樣,99%的遙控器是沒問題的,不需校正.偏偏我是那1%,開機都沒問題,但停機有時候停不掉.仍然在轉.才寫信去問他們.所以還是建議各位校一次油門.以免低油門在臨界點附近.
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發表於 2010-5-21 20:38 |只看該作者
沒有校正的話,用fixed throttle模式可以飛,也停得掉

設好定速之後,開throttle hold,ESC通電之後只響了12聲,代表有12個cell,然後就沒有聲音了

依您提供的方法校正油門endpoint之後,油門全開是63%,全關是62%
Futaba T10CHP mode 3
T-REX 500E | 飛行次數: 11147
T-REX 700E | 飛行次數: 2064
T-REX 700N | 飛行次數: 166

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發表於 2010-5-24 19:31 |只看該作者
請教 我的更改設定按Update後接上電源,電變會快速閃紅燈(伺服器會動.馬達不會動)......需按Defaults回復原廠設定才能正常
.........有哪位知道怎了嗎?

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發表於 2010-5-25 08:51 |只看該作者

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一樣是油門Endpoint的問題啦!就好像油機引擎油門位置都在化油器全閉處,引擎是發不動的,只要將遙控器移到油門最低點,再將遙控器內油門的endpoint最低點往向調,直到出現聲響就差不多了,拿掉槳,催油門到頂,若能看到燈由橘變紅,表示最大輸出行程已達到,那麼油門低點就找到了,若最大油門沒出現紅燈,則要再稍調高油門低點。
現役機種:
TREX600E-Pro/Kontronic Jive120+HV /DS-610/3Gx+BLS251
TREX700N-FBL/Futba 12Z 2.4G/DS-8915/GY611+BLS251/Align定速器/油門DS-620
TREX700E-FBL/V-bar/JR-8915/BLS251 /Kontronic Jive120+HV /Pyro700-52L
TREX550E-FBL/V-bar/Jive 80/天蠍4025-550KV/12S/DS-610/Futaba9256
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發表於 2010-5-25 13:23 |只看該作者
原帖由 leesnake 於 2010-5-25 08:51 發表
一樣是油門Endpoint的問題啦!就好像油機引擎油門位置都在化油器全閉處,引擎是發不動的,只要將遙控器移到油門最低點,再將遙控器內油門的endpoint最低點往向調,直到出現聲響就差不多了,拿掉槳,催油門到頂,若能 ...


試過了沒辦法ㄟ...如果是這樣在改回出廠設定值應該也不會動才對

照原廠說明書說的快速閃紅燈好像是甚麼定速鎖住
Red LED
‧  Blinks out c ‧ ell-counts /error codes
‧ Flashes a little at low throttle
‧ Flashes a lot at high throttle
‧ Solid on at full-throttle
‧ Pulses quickly when governor-mode is lockedilis locked

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